elco kirjoitti:Haemaeraemies kirjoitti:
Oikein vasemmistopropagandaa kun kehtaan suuria NASA:n miehiä syytellä natseiksi. Aivan sama ovatko olleet tieteen terävimmän kärjen airuina, natseja siellä oli silti johdossa.
Toistan, oliko Neuvostoliiton avaruusohjelma jotenkin puhtoisempi?
Mitä eroa on kommarilla ja natsilla paitsi tietty että kommari on kavalampi?
Olenko väittänyt että neuvosto-ohjelma oli jotenkin puhtoisempi? Ja mikä minä olen määrittämään Neukkujen ohjelman puhtautta.
No, voisin yrittää kun kuiteskin tulet syyttelemään paskanpuhujaksi jos en yritä:
Venäläisten vastaveto Project Paperclipille oli Operation Osoaviakhim, joka kuljetti saksasta tiedemiehiä Neukkuihin.
"According to newly researched Russian data, the actual number of deported German rocket specialists reached 177 people, including 24 people with doctorate degrees, 17 people with master degrees, 71 people with engineering degrees and 27 workers."
"Total 136 people were employed by a newly created NII-88 research institute, including 111 people who were identified as heads of households, 18 people without any dependents or family members and seven workers had been family members of other German employees at NII-88. Total number of German citizens under NII-88's responsibility reached 495 people, including family members."
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Asiasta on hyvin vähän varmaa tietoa tallella, mutta voidaan päätellä että saksalaiset leikottiin pois neukkujen projetkteista paljon aikasemin mitä USA:ssa, jossa kyseiset ukot tekivät loppuelämän uran. Tämä voi johtua tietty suhtautumisesta ja työolosuhteista.
First several months in the USSR, legal status of German specialists remained uncertain, as Soviet authorities were still figuring out how to treat their captives. Germans had no passports or any other documents and they were not be able to send letters home for the first two months in the USSR.
Yet, the biggest frustration for the German specialists in Russia was not their lack of freedom, or living conditions, but the chaos at work. The condition of facilities of a semi-abandoned artillery plant in Podlipki, where they were expected to build rockets, shocked even their Russian colleagues.
Due to lack of storage facilities, the hardware delivered from Institute Nordhausen had been unloaded on the snow-covered ground along the railway lines, where it was quickly turning into scrap metal. "Design offices" of NII-88 lacked tools, materials and even tables. Numerous documents and blueprints generated in Germany were lost in transit or were grabbed by competing ministries. Gröttrup's appeals to the director of NII-88 Gonor and Minister of Armaments Ustinov seemed to bear no fruits.
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One of the last trains carrying Germans to Gorodomlya left on June 16, 1948. Dr. Umpfenbach remained one of the few Germans in Podlipki, before he was also removed to Gorodomlya.
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From around mid-1948, Germans at OKB-456 were also denied active involvement in the development of a next generation engines..
By the end of 1950, Germans who worked for OKB-456 were sent back to Germany
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Eli voidaan päätellä ettei projentin ydinryhmä muodostunut entisistä nasseista, heiltä vain kerättiin tarvittava ammattiosaaminen ja lähetettiin kotia. Miksi näin, sitä en osaa arvailla.
Nimilistaa neukkulaan juosseista nasseista en onnistunut löytämään kiireessäni työn keskellä, ylläolevan datan kaivaminen ja erottelu söi jo tarpeeksi työaikaa.
Good human, but sometimes if needed, a bad citizen.
