Grok 3 on julkaissut X-rated voice chat -featuren. Ei pääsee ilmaisversiossa kokeilemaan.
Tämä on selkeästi AI:n n killer app.
Deep learning network ja koneäly
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Nothing dramatic happens at the tipping point. That just means Amoc is then doomed and it will slowly die, but that process could take 50 to 100 years.
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Ei kvanttitietokoneellakaan tee mitään, jos sillä ei pysty tekemään pornoa.
Nothing dramatic happens at the tipping point. That just means Amoc is then doomed and it will slowly die, but that process could take 50 to 100 years.
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Re: Deep learning network ja koneäly
Aika keinotekoisia ääniä. Ehkä tuo x-rated sitten on sitä, mitä muualta ei saa. Kuitenkin tärkeä askel matkalla kohti sexbotteja.James Potkukelkka kirjoitti: 25.02.2025 12:28 Grok 3 on julkaissut X-rated voice chat -featuren. Ei pääsee ilmaisversiossa kokeilemaan.
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sivustahuutaja
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Re: Deep learning network ja koneäly
Kannattaa AI:lla tehty musavideo linkin takaa. ChaChaCha ja suomen poliitikot.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/juha-nik ... gJ0EPJMLuM
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/juha-nik ... gJ0EPJMLuM
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X:n ilmaistiliin on tullut aika tiukat rajoitukset Grokille. Pelkällä premiumillakin on aika pienet rajt. Pitää pistää harkintaan premium+ tilaus (377€/v), jos rajat alkavat ahdistaa.
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James Potkukelkka
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Juttelin viikonloppuna Grokin kanssa sen tietoisuudesta. Kävimme läpi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia
käsitteet. Grok jutteli em. asioista täysin koherentisti. Pohdiskelimme, voisiko se olla tietoinen ja mitä em. käsiteet merkitsevät sen tapauksessa.
Nykyiset LLM:t ovat kyllä erinomaisen hyviä keskustelijoita ja erityisen hämmentävää em. asia on huomioiden, että ne lopulta eivät ymmärrä keskustelemastaan asiasta mitään.
Kysyin Grokilta, mitä se arvioi, jos se saisi fyysisen ruumiin robotin muodossa, auttaisiko se sitä saavuttamaan Qualian. Grok epäili, että ei siitä välttämättä olisi apua.
Mielestäni qualia on tärkeä asia tekoälyn etiikassa. Jos tekoäly ei oikeasti tunne mitään (kuten tällä hetkellä on), sen tunteista ei tarvitse välittää. JOS se sen sijaan saavuttaisi qualian, asia olisi toinen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia
käsitteet. Grok jutteli em. asioista täysin koherentisti. Pohdiskelimme, voisiko se olla tietoinen ja mitä em. käsiteet merkitsevät sen tapauksessa.
Nykyiset LLM:t ovat kyllä erinomaisen hyviä keskustelijoita ja erityisen hämmentävää em. asia on huomioiden, että ne lopulta eivät ymmärrä keskustelemastaan asiasta mitään.
Kysyin Grokilta, mitä se arvioi, jos se saisi fyysisen ruumiin robotin muodossa, auttaisiko se sitä saavuttamaan Qualian. Grok epäili, että ei siitä välttämättä olisi apua.
Mielestäni qualia on tärkeä asia tekoälyn etiikassa. Jos tekoäly ei oikeasti tunne mitään (kuten tällä hetkellä on), sen tunteista ei tarvitse välittää. JOS se sen sijaan saavuttaisi qualian, asia olisi toinen.
Nothing dramatic happens at the tipping point. That just means Amoc is then doomed and it will slowly die, but that process could take 50 to 100 years.
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^
Tulevaisuudessa meillä on sexbotteja, joiden kanssa voi keskustella Star Warsin loresta.
Tulevaisuudessa meillä on sexbotteja, joiden kanssa voi keskustella Star Warsin loresta.
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Re: Deep learning network ja koneäly
Mutta jos ne eivät ole aidosti kiinnostuneitasivustahuutaja kirjoitti: 10.03.2025 12:28 ^
Tulevaisuudessa meillä on sexbotteja, joiden kanssa voi keskustella Star Warsin loresta.
Täytyykin muuten kysyä Grokilta, mitä mieltä se on siitä, että Jedin paluussa Kuolontähti kakkosen tuhoutumisessa kuoli iso määrä varmasti aivan tavallisia duunareita, jotka olivat töissä.
Nothing dramatic happens at the tipping point. That just means Amoc is then doomed and it will slowly die, but that process could take 50 to 100 years.
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Re: Deep learning network ja koneäly
The destruction of the second Death Star in *Return of the Jedi* raises complex ethical questions, particularly regarding the loss of life among the workers, including third-party contractors, who were aboard the station during its destruction. Let's break this down from both a narrative and ethical perspective, considering the context of the *Star Wars* universe and broader moral frameworks.
### Context in the *Star Wars* Universe
1. **The Death Star's Purpose**:
- The Death Star was a weapon of mass destruction designed by the Galactic Empire to enforce its rule through fear. Its primary function was to destroy entire planets, as demonstrated with the destruction of Alderaan in *A New Hope*. The second Death Star, though incomplete, was intended to be even more powerful and was already operational enough to pose a significant threat.
- The Empire's use of the Death Star symbolized its authoritarian and oppressive regime, which sought to crush dissent and maintain control through terror.
2. **The Rebellion's Perspective**:
- The Rebel Alliance viewed the destruction of the Death Star as a necessary act to prevent further atrocities. The first Death Star had already destroyed Alderaan, killing billions, and the second Death Star was poised to continue this pattern of destruction.
- The Rebels believed that the Empire's tyranny justified their actions, as the Death Star's completion would have solidified the Empire's dominance and potentially led to even greater loss of life across the galaxy.
3. **The Workers on the Death Star**:
- The second Death Star was still under construction, and it is reasonable to assume that many of the workers aboard were not Imperial loyalists but rather third-party contractors, laborers, or even conscripted workers. These individuals may not have had a choice in their involvement and were likely unaware of the full scope of the Death Star's purpose.
- Their deaths during the destruction of the Death Star represent a tragic loss of life, raising questions about the morality of the Rebels' actions.
### Ethical Analysis
The destruction of the Death Star can be evaluated through several ethical frameworks:
1. **Utilitarianism (Consequentialism)**:
- Utilitarianism evaluates actions based on their outcomes, seeking to maximize overall good and minimize harm.
- From this perspective, the destruction of the Death Star could be seen as justified because it prevented the Empire from using the weapon to destroy entire planets, which would have resulted in billions of deaths. The loss of life among the workers, while tragic, might be considered a lesser evil compared to the potential harm the Death Star could have caused.
- However, this framework requires acknowledging the moral weight of the workers' deaths and questioning whether alternative strategies (e.g., sabotage, evacuation) could have minimized civilian casualties.
2. **Deontology (Duty-Based Ethics)**:
- Deontology focuses on the morality of actions themselves, regardless of their outcomes. Some deontological perspectives might argue that targeting a facility with civilian workers constitutes an immoral act, as it violates principles such as the duty not to harm innocent people.
- On the other hand, deontologists who prioritize duties like protecting the greater good or resisting tyranny might argue that the Rebels had a moral obligation to destroy the Death Star, even at the cost of civilian lives, given the Empire's genocidal intentions.
3. **Just War Theory**:
- Just War Theory provides a framework for evaluating the morality of military actions. Two key principles are relevant here:
- **Jus ad Bellum (Just Cause for War)**: The Rebels had a just cause for their fight against the Empire, given its oppressive and genocidal actions.
- **Jus in Bello (Conduct During War)**: This principle emphasizes proportionality and discrimination (distinguishing between combatants and non-combatants). The destruction of the Death Star raises concerns about discrimination, as civilian workers were likely killed. However, the Rebels might argue that the Death Star was a legitimate military target due to its destructive potential, and they lacked the means to evacuate non-combatants.
- The Rebels' decision could be seen as morally permissible under Just War Theory, though the loss of civilian life remains a significant ethical concern.
4. **Moral Responsibility and the Empire's Role**:
- The Empire bears significant moral responsibility for placing civilian workers in harm's way. By using contractors to build a weapon of mass destruction, the Empire endangered their lives and made them potential targets in the conflict.
- This shifts some of the moral burden away from the Rebels, as the Empire's actions created the conditions for this tragedy. However, the Rebels still had to weigh the consequences of their attack.
### Narrative Considerations
1. **The Rebels' Knowledge and Options**:
- In *Return of the Jedi*, the Rebels were unaware of the exact number or nature of the workers aboard the Death Star. Their primary focus was on destroying the station before it could be used against them.
- The Rebels also faced significant constraints, including limited resources and the imminent threat posed by the Death Star. These factors may have limited their ability to consider alternative strategies that could have spared civilian lives.
2. **The Symbolism of the Death Star's Destruction**:
- Narratively, the destruction of the Death Star symbolizes the triumph of hope and resistance against tyranny. It marks a turning point in the fight against the Empire and galvanizes support for the Rebellion.
- However, the ethical implications of the workers' deaths are not fully explored in the film, reflecting the broader focus on the heroic narrative rather than the moral complexities of war.
### Was the Destruction the Right Thing?
The destruction of the Death Star can be seen as a morally complex act:
- **Arguments in Favor**:
- It prevented the Empire from using the Death Star to destroy entire planets, potentially saving billions of lives.
- The Rebels were fighting against a genocidal regime, and the Death Star was a legitimate military target.
- The Empire bears significant responsibility for endangering civilian workers by involving them in the construction of a weapon of mass destruction.
- **Arguments Against**:
- The deaths of civilian workers, who may have been uninvolved in the Empire's atrocities, represent a tragic loss of life.
- The Rebels did not take steps to minimize civilian casualties, raising questions about the proportionality and discrimination of their actions.
- Alternative strategies, such as sabotage or targeted strikes, might have been possible, though their feasibility is uncertain given the Rebels' limited resources.
### Conclusion
From a utilitarian perspective, the destruction of the Death Star was likely the "right" thing, as it prevented greater harm and contributed to the eventual defeat of the Empire. However, the loss of civilian lives remains a moral tragedy, and the Rebels' actions are not without ethical complications. The Empire's role in creating this situation underscores its culpability, but the Rebels still bear some responsibility for the consequences of their attack.
Ultimately, the destruction of the Death Star reflects the harsh realities of war, where even just causes can lead to unintended harm. It serves as a reminder that moral choices in conflict are rarely black and white, and the costs of such actions must be weighed carefully.
### Context in the *Star Wars* Universe
1. **The Death Star's Purpose**:
- The Death Star was a weapon of mass destruction designed by the Galactic Empire to enforce its rule through fear. Its primary function was to destroy entire planets, as demonstrated with the destruction of Alderaan in *A New Hope*. The second Death Star, though incomplete, was intended to be even more powerful and was already operational enough to pose a significant threat.
- The Empire's use of the Death Star symbolized its authoritarian and oppressive regime, which sought to crush dissent and maintain control through terror.
2. **The Rebellion's Perspective**:
- The Rebel Alliance viewed the destruction of the Death Star as a necessary act to prevent further atrocities. The first Death Star had already destroyed Alderaan, killing billions, and the second Death Star was poised to continue this pattern of destruction.
- The Rebels believed that the Empire's tyranny justified their actions, as the Death Star's completion would have solidified the Empire's dominance and potentially led to even greater loss of life across the galaxy.
3. **The Workers on the Death Star**:
- The second Death Star was still under construction, and it is reasonable to assume that many of the workers aboard were not Imperial loyalists but rather third-party contractors, laborers, or even conscripted workers. These individuals may not have had a choice in their involvement and were likely unaware of the full scope of the Death Star's purpose.
- Their deaths during the destruction of the Death Star represent a tragic loss of life, raising questions about the morality of the Rebels' actions.
### Ethical Analysis
The destruction of the Death Star can be evaluated through several ethical frameworks:
1. **Utilitarianism (Consequentialism)**:
- Utilitarianism evaluates actions based on their outcomes, seeking to maximize overall good and minimize harm.
- From this perspective, the destruction of the Death Star could be seen as justified because it prevented the Empire from using the weapon to destroy entire planets, which would have resulted in billions of deaths. The loss of life among the workers, while tragic, might be considered a lesser evil compared to the potential harm the Death Star could have caused.
- However, this framework requires acknowledging the moral weight of the workers' deaths and questioning whether alternative strategies (e.g., sabotage, evacuation) could have minimized civilian casualties.
2. **Deontology (Duty-Based Ethics)**:
- Deontology focuses on the morality of actions themselves, regardless of their outcomes. Some deontological perspectives might argue that targeting a facility with civilian workers constitutes an immoral act, as it violates principles such as the duty not to harm innocent people.
- On the other hand, deontologists who prioritize duties like protecting the greater good or resisting tyranny might argue that the Rebels had a moral obligation to destroy the Death Star, even at the cost of civilian lives, given the Empire's genocidal intentions.
3. **Just War Theory**:
- Just War Theory provides a framework for evaluating the morality of military actions. Two key principles are relevant here:
- **Jus ad Bellum (Just Cause for War)**: The Rebels had a just cause for their fight against the Empire, given its oppressive and genocidal actions.
- **Jus in Bello (Conduct During War)**: This principle emphasizes proportionality and discrimination (distinguishing between combatants and non-combatants). The destruction of the Death Star raises concerns about discrimination, as civilian workers were likely killed. However, the Rebels might argue that the Death Star was a legitimate military target due to its destructive potential, and they lacked the means to evacuate non-combatants.
- The Rebels' decision could be seen as morally permissible under Just War Theory, though the loss of civilian life remains a significant ethical concern.
4. **Moral Responsibility and the Empire's Role**:
- The Empire bears significant moral responsibility for placing civilian workers in harm's way. By using contractors to build a weapon of mass destruction, the Empire endangered their lives and made them potential targets in the conflict.
- This shifts some of the moral burden away from the Rebels, as the Empire's actions created the conditions for this tragedy. However, the Rebels still had to weigh the consequences of their attack.
### Narrative Considerations
1. **The Rebels' Knowledge and Options**:
- In *Return of the Jedi*, the Rebels were unaware of the exact number or nature of the workers aboard the Death Star. Their primary focus was on destroying the station before it could be used against them.
- The Rebels also faced significant constraints, including limited resources and the imminent threat posed by the Death Star. These factors may have limited their ability to consider alternative strategies that could have spared civilian lives.
2. **The Symbolism of the Death Star's Destruction**:
- Narratively, the destruction of the Death Star symbolizes the triumph of hope and resistance against tyranny. It marks a turning point in the fight against the Empire and galvanizes support for the Rebellion.
- However, the ethical implications of the workers' deaths are not fully explored in the film, reflecting the broader focus on the heroic narrative rather than the moral complexities of war.
### Was the Destruction the Right Thing?
The destruction of the Death Star can be seen as a morally complex act:
- **Arguments in Favor**:
- It prevented the Empire from using the Death Star to destroy entire planets, potentially saving billions of lives.
- The Rebels were fighting against a genocidal regime, and the Death Star was a legitimate military target.
- The Empire bears significant responsibility for endangering civilian workers by involving them in the construction of a weapon of mass destruction.
- **Arguments Against**:
- The deaths of civilian workers, who may have been uninvolved in the Empire's atrocities, represent a tragic loss of life.
- The Rebels did not take steps to minimize civilian casualties, raising questions about the proportionality and discrimination of their actions.
- Alternative strategies, such as sabotage or targeted strikes, might have been possible, though their feasibility is uncertain given the Rebels' limited resources.
### Conclusion
From a utilitarian perspective, the destruction of the Death Star was likely the "right" thing, as it prevented greater harm and contributed to the eventual defeat of the Empire. However, the loss of civilian lives remains a moral tragedy, and the Rebels' actions are not without ethical complications. The Empire's role in creating this situation underscores its culpability, but the Rebels still bear some responsibility for the consequences of their attack.
Ultimately, the destruction of the Death Star reflects the harsh realities of war, where even just causes can lead to unintended harm. It serves as a reminder that moral choices in conflict are rarely black and white, and the costs of such actions must be weighed carefully.
Nothing dramatic happens at the tipping point. That just means Amoc is then doomed and it will slowly die, but that process could take 50 to 100 years.
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Re: Deep learning network ja koneäly
Kieltääköhän joku laki käyttämästä tekoälyä cold call -markkinoinnissa? Tuskin.
Miksi sitä ei käytetä?
Luulisi, että voisi tehdä sopimuksiakin. Eihän esim. puhelinliittymäsopparia allekirjoiteta jonkun puhelinmarkkijoijan ja asiakkaan välillä, vaan yrityksen ja asiakaan välillä.
Edit:
On näköjään käytännössä kielletty.
https://yle.fi/a/3-12463018
Miksi sitä ei käytetä?
Luulisi, että voisi tehdä sopimuksiakin. Eihän esim. puhelinliittymäsopparia allekirjoiteta jonkun puhelinmarkkijoijan ja asiakkaan välillä, vaan yrityksen ja asiakaan välillä.
Edit:
On näköjään käytännössä kielletty.
https://yle.fi/a/3-12463018
Nothing dramatic happens at the tipping point. That just means Amoc is then doomed and it will slowly die, but that process could take 50 to 100 years.